I Am Not a Muslim!   5 comments

That might seem like I’m stating the obvious, but a commenter forwarded a you-tube video featuring a self-described angry atheist who grouped all religions together. I’m posting on my husband’s tablet, so I can’t post the video (others probably could) so I’ll do that later or you can find it in the comments for “A Message to Atheists”.

What this woman does by lumping all who claim the label of Christianity with Muslims, Hindus, cult groups and just about anyone else who acknowledges the reality of the metaphysical is create a logical fallacy based on a false dichotomy.

The false dichotomy is that all religions are equivalent and that only atheism is a reasonable response to the world. In the video, the speaker makes the case that all religions are capable of atrocities in the name of religion. Tomorrow we can expect the Amish to launch the next 911.

Clearly the Amish bear little resemblance to Sunni Muslims,but pay no attention to the evidence. Their belief in the metaphysical is dangerous.

My faith teaches me nonaggression. As far as he world allows, I practice my faith in peace. I won’t violate God’s laws to make the world like me, but I’m not going to blow anything up for my beliefs. So don’t lump me with Muslims who do believe the sword is an appropriate way to advance heir god’s agenda.That is not the god of the Bible and the fruit of our different faiths are evidently different.

The false dichomy of religion versus atheist leads to all sorts of logical fallacies, not the least of which is that Christians whose Bible teach them nonaggression are going to launch the next 911.

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  1. Yes, I see this two in both god-believers and non-believers. Atheism isn’t the opposite of religion. Religions are diverse, and not all even have gods. Atheisms, too, are diverse, but not nearly so complex as religions which are belief systems while atheism speaks merely to a lack of belief in one particular thing. I always find people who think these are opposites to be a bit simplistic in their thinking.

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    • I would argue that atheism is a belief system, as are all isms. It starts with a fundamental belief that there is no metaphical realm. There is no god, says the atheist.

      From there it diversifies. There are atheists who are pleased to have arrived at that conclusion for themselves and feel no need to go much further. If you engage them, you can have a pleasant conversation because they don’t see believers as a threat and they themselves have little desire to threaten believers.

      Then there are those who, like the woman in the video, want to label all practioners as rpotentially dangerous. They fall into a spectrum of anger. Some would just insist we be quiet about what we believe. Others would take away the civil rights of believers and remove our children from our homes.

      Those at that extreme end will insist they mean well for society. They just think they know better than we do and they will insist that the evidence is on their side. I beg to differ.

      The evidence of what an atheist society would look like can be found in the history of atheistic societies in the 20th century. Approximately 200 million people, particularly those of faith, were murdered y those regimes.

      That does not mean I would seek to take away the civil liberties of atheists or deny them the right to raise their children as they see fit, but that I see ample evidence to be concerned that some of them would like to do that to me.

      In a free society there should be room for diversity of opinion, but we unfortunately have those in the United States and Western Europe who see such liberty as a threat and as atheists have done before, consider it their right to force society to conform to their opinions.

      My point was that when you group all religions together it is easy to create a false dichotomy, but when you take people as individuals, you cannot take the argument so far. I think the history of Biblical Christianity has shown improved individual lives that has improved society. And diversity, individualism, charity, are all Biblical concepts that apostolic Christianity taught to the world.

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      • “I would argue that atheism is a belief system, as are all isms. It starts with a fundamental belief that there is no metaphical realm. There is no god, says the atheist.”

        But it doesn’t actually. Atheism, if you check the OED, is simply the lack of a belief in gods. One might believe in all manner of metaphysical or supernatural things and still be an atheist so long as no gods are involved. Many Buddhisys and Taoists, for example, fit this category. What you are talking about is materialists I think.

        I agree, though, that there is a diversity both among atheists and materialists. I think the problem arises when an atheist him or herself is unaware of exactly what, and how little, that term means. They, too, often think atheism and materialism are synonymous, and are often unaware of how much we’ve learned about the nature of consciousness, perception and matter in the last 400 years. Yes, it is arrogance, but possibly no more so than religious believers. What I think motivates them is a background of real or percieved oppression under a particular religious belief. An ex-believer is like an ex-smoker…the most avid fanatic. You will rarely find an atheist, raised an atheist by and surrounded by atheists, who behaves in this manner. It is reactionary in nature.

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        eyeontheuniverse
      • Whatever their “official” stance is, very few atheists are not neutral in their rejection of “god”. My church has been involved with literacy work with the foreign-born for many years, so I know quite a few Buddhists and while their religion does not have a single “god”, they do deify nature and sometimes ancestors, which from a Christian theist position is not atheism. Idol-worship is still a belief in gods of some sort.

        You may have a point there about the reactionarism. The comments I’m getting are from people who claim to have been raised in a Christian church and to have essentially been deprogrammed. I can’t deny their experience, but when they make claims from the Bible that cannot be supported by the Bible I have to question their assertion to extensive knowledge of the Bible.

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